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Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:55:39 +0200
From: nicolas vigier <boklm@mars-attacks.org>
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Subject: Re: [board-private] mandriva, foundation, business server
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On Fri, 18 May 2012, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to
> get a status.
> 
> He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18)
> http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/
> . So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
> position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among
> which Peroyvind (see
> https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although
> he doesn't have the full story it seems).
> 
> He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use
> Mageia as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute
> back. Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business
> server) will get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.
> 
> He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming
> days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its
> Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its
> foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff
> sometimes goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is
> said, he does mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it
> cool and neutral on our side too.
> 
> So, here's a suggested plan:
> 
>  * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning
> (CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related
> news:
>    - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation
> project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
>    - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech
> platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
>    - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not
> so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on
> Mageia".
> 
>  * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days
> to propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday
> evening) - interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the
> previous days, and this release news will hide partially the previous
> news.
> 
>  * until now, all this has been kept private in board-private: a)
> knowledge and decision about the foundation, and b) business server
> thing. Note that about a), people may question both the decision and
> the fact that it was private, without consulting the Council. We will
> mail privately Council members to inform them about both a) and b),
> but still. We won't need further arguments than what we explained to
> Mandriva, and what the governance says. But still again. In the case
> of things getting really ugly in the coming weeks, I'd suggest that we
> call for a vote of confidence to make things very clear (from Council,
> or from all registered contributors in LDAP).

This looks like a good plan.

I suggest starting the blog post on piratepad. Then sending a first
draft of the blog post tomorrow (or when we have something ready) to
council members to inform them about it and see what they think of it.